Post-Production Supervision with Darlene Barrios
Darlene Barrios, a production supervisor, as she discusses her journey in the entertainment industry. From managing office operations to working closely with clients like Disney and Paramount, Darlene shares insights into the behind-the-scenes world of post-production and digital asset management. Learn about her experiences interacting with celebrities like Val Kilmer and the intricacies of compressing various formats into digital files.
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Speaker:Now, here are your anchors, Derek Johnson II and Nicholas Killian.
Speaker:Welcome to Film Center, my name is Derek Johnson II.
Speaker:I'm Nicholas Killian.
Speaker:And today we're here with Darlene Barrios.
Speaker:Hello Darlene, how you doing today?
Speaker:I'm good, thank you.
Speaker:How are you?
Speaker:Doing pretty good.
Speaker:Darlene, we were just asking how you would like to be referred by and you
Speaker:said She's not a production coordinator.
Speaker:She is a production supervisor.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:What's the difference?
Speaker:So the difference is I manage the office as opposed to just looking at the
Speaker:production office aspect of the business.
Speaker:And who exa Can you say exactly who you work for?
Speaker:There are NDAs in this town.
Speaker:Gotcha.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:She works at a really nice company.
Speaker:She just came from Burbank.
Speaker:Thank you so much for coming in.
Speaker:Uh, I know it was It's raining today.
Speaker:It was a little bit of a rainy drive.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I appreciate it.
Speaker:But anyways, tell us about where you're from.
Speaker:You from LA?
Speaker:You from, uh, somewhere else in the country?
Speaker:I'm from LA, but I've moved around a lot.
Speaker:I'm currently stationed at the Antelope Valley.
Speaker:Your station there.
Speaker:Yeah, so like you so they change your station.
Speaker:No, I just meant to say I live there.
Speaker:Oh Seemed like you were in the military I was like, yo, I say that
Speaker:because it's temporary but he's always been like around California.
Speaker:Yes So what places have you lived so far in California?
Speaker:So LA Burbank Glendale, San Fernando Valley She hasn't left.
Speaker:She hasn't left glitz and glamour.
Speaker:No Valley girl, whole life.
Speaker:Tell us about what was the journey that led you to the entertainment industry.
Speaker:Have you always been interested in entertainment?
Speaker:Yes, I always have been.
Speaker:Do you think your environment, because you're from the area, you think your
Speaker:environment had something to do with it?
Speaker:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker:Also growing up, my dad was a musician, so I got to learn a
Speaker:little bit of that industry.
Speaker:Real?
Speaker:No, I'm kidding.
Speaker:What kind of music do you make?
Speaker:So he plays guitar, it's mostly in Spanish.
Speaker:He was in a band, so I got to see him play with his band.
Speaker:Not to say tour, but he did have some events that he played at, and
Speaker:that was fun growing up to see.
Speaker:It's funny you didn't become a musician yourself.
Speaker:I tried.
Speaker:I did take piano lessons growing up, but it just didn't stick with me.
Speaker:I feel like my instructor was too tough, and You took them guitar lessons instead.
Speaker:I tried that too, because my dad plays the guitar.
Speaker:I just, I couldn't do it.
Speaker:So you, where did you go, where did you go to like elementary school
Speaker:and stuff like that growing up?
Speaker:Did you go to one of those, because there aren't any,
Speaker:there's a lot of private schools.
Speaker:Did you go to a private school?
Speaker:No, I did not go to any private schools.
Speaker:Did you go to a performing arts school?
Speaker:I did not, no.
Speaker:So you just went to a Public school.
Speaker:Just a regular public school, huh?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then you went there for elementary school, middle
Speaker:school And then high school.
Speaker:And then you went to college.
Speaker:Where was the decision to get into entertainment?
Speaker:I think it was mid, when I was doing my undergrad.
Speaker:I got my undergrad in business management.
Speaker:And then I had to take a course, more so like an elective.
Speaker:And I decided to do a jazz course.
Speaker:So it was a course that taught you everything about jazz.
Speaker:It's history and who the key players are.
Speaker:What draws you to jazz compared to other forms?
Speaker:Your father didn't play jazz.
Speaker:No, he didn't play jazz.
Speaker:No, so what makes you want to be in the jazz scene?
Speaker:I've always liked it.
Speaker:I know growing up my parents always called it elevator music.
Speaker:I never did.
Speaker:So I just wanted to learn more about it, just for my knowledge.
Speaker:Were you in a jazz band at all or no?
Speaker:No.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:I remember I played the saxophone.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:I played alto sax for three years, but then I was like, I don't know.
Speaker:I'm from Tennessee.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:We're both from the south.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:I played the trumpet.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Ah.
Speaker:After high school, I was, I'm done with the trumpet.
Speaker:Yeah, the saxophone, as I said, I lived in Nashville.
Speaker:So if you're playing saxophone, you have to be good at music.
Speaker:You can't be like, oh, I want to get into it.
Speaker:This, the music, one of the music capitals of the entire world.
Speaker:They're like, no, either you're the best or don't even start.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And then what was, we were talking about this beforehand.
Speaker:What led you so you took jazz and then you graduated from college, right?
Speaker:How did you dip your toe in the entertainment industry?
Speaker:I knew I wanted to work alongside the entertainment industry so when
Speaker:I graduated from college, I was extremely desperate to get out of my
Speaker:I was a cashier at a grocery store.
Speaker:And so I just applied anywhere that said that had the word entertainment.
Speaker:I was one of the lucky few is where I was interviewed where I'm currently at.
Speaker:And ever since I just been with that company since then.
Speaker:How long has that been?
Speaker:Seven years.
Speaker:Seven years now?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Did you, have you changed around positions since being there?
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:So I started very entry level doing, it's a storage company, so
Speaker:we have a lot of material come in.
Speaker:Started as data entry clerk, and then I've somehow moved into the account
Speaker:service team, and then I've dabbled into leadership roles, and then Where I, what
Speaker:I'm currently doing now, which is with post production and digitizing the assets.
Speaker:So do you ever go back to your old grocery store and be like, pshh,
Speaker:this place fell apart without me?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:In fact, my manager has been very open about that.
Speaker:So he does what he can.
Speaker:Yeah, he does what he can to keep me because I've been
Speaker:wanting to move away from there.
Speaker:With that being said, what else?
Speaker:Would you say is a hot topic right now in your industry?
Speaker:Hot topic?
Speaker:Yeah, because AI, everything that's going through a revolution right now,
Speaker:what's something in your specific area is a real big hot topic right now.
Speaker:They did just come out with that Sora AI, with the text to video.
Speaker:What do you think of that?
Speaker:Right now a lot of our projects are based on actors and singers
Speaker:who are doing documentary work.
Speaker:We've been dealing a lot with that, so it's a fun project where
Speaker:we get to open their vault and get to see what they did in the past.
Speaker:I can share one story, so we all know Val Kilmer.
Speaker:Actor for Top Gun and Willow.
Speaker:So he had that documentary named Val.
Speaker:I don't know if you guys had a chance to see it.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Actually, I think it was Amazon Prime.
Speaker:It was oh, yeah, that's right There's so much streaming services now.
Speaker:It's like you had to buy like the bundle.
Speaker:Yeah, like all of them Yeah, just to see one thing just so you don't miss anything
Speaker:to meet val kilmer I did get to meet him.
Speaker:So he went into our office.
Speaker:It's all very tall.
Speaker:He's not that tall.
Speaker:I'm five four I would say he's five Six, five, seven?
Speaker:No way!
Speaker:Yeah, he's not a really tall man.
Speaker:He's five, six, five, seven?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So he's DJ's height.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Is that how tall you are?
Speaker:I'm five, seven, yeah.
Speaker:Okay, then yeah, I would say five, seven.
Speaker:That's crazy.
Speaker:So I'm taller than Val Kilmer.
Speaker:Probably, yeah.
Speaker:I think you're as tall as Mike Tyson.
Speaker:How tall are you?
Speaker:Five, ten.
Speaker:Yeah, that's Mike Tyson.
Speaker:How come you're not, how come you're not fighting?
Speaker:How come you're not fighting?
Speaker:How come I'm not fighting?
Speaker:Yeah, me and Val Kimmerer locked down.
Speaker:The 5'7 club, we're both working entertainment.
Speaker:The 5'4 club's in entertainment.
Speaker:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker:The 5'10 club, that's like for boxing.
Speaker:What you doing, man?
Speaker:I had a better childhood than Mike Tyson did.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:When you deal with celebrities, do you find it's, cause we've.
Speaker:Dealing with celebrities is different for each context.
Speaker:For ours, it's more like, okay, I'm writing that I do for them.
Speaker:I don't really need to talk to the actors a lot.
Speaker:That's not part of my job.
Speaker:There's no reason I would need to talk to them.
Speaker:Or even when we're doing the show, it's okay, cool.
Speaker:They're coming on here to do the show, right?
Speaker:But when you're working closely with someone on a documentary,
Speaker:it's much more intimate than that.
Speaker:Sometimes I find it like, I know a lot about you, but you don't
Speaker:know exactly why you're here.
Speaker:No, because they come into the room not really having that stigma upon them.
Speaker:They're really open and friendly, in my experience.
Speaker:So it's just easy to talk to them like a regular person.
Speaker:I think people forget that these are not just celebrities, because
Speaker:you're used to seeing them on TV or social media or whatnot.
Speaker:And when they come there, they just look like the regular people.
Speaker:Your average guy, that's walking down the street.
Speaker:Does Val Kilmer, does he dress well?
Speaker:That's not necessarily my style, but.
Speaker:What is Val Kilmer's style?
Speaker:I heard he likes vans.
Speaker:It's, how would I describe it?
Speaker:When I met him, it was more so a little hippie, hobo vibe.
Speaker:Not hobo, that's so mean.
Speaker:That's a bad connotation.
Speaker:Sounds like a homeless sheep.
Speaker:No.
Speaker:He was in chill mode probably.
Speaker:Chill mode, yeah.
Speaker:Dressed down, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Although, to be fair, I think if he came in with a giant van.
Speaker:Val Kilmer shirt on, they're probably a little bit narcissists, so of course
Speaker:he wouldn't look at anything crazy or too flashy, especially because the
Speaker:celebrity standard for hiding in person is the baseball cap and shades, as
Speaker:if no one, as if no one could tell.
Speaker:Did you have intimate conversations with Val Kilmer or what was
Speaker:your interaction with him?
Speaker:Because you're working as a, you're working as post supervisor, right?
Speaker:So it's like, The stuff's already shot when it comes to you, right?
Speaker:Yeah, it's all like from the past I guess you could say my interactions
Speaker:have been positive I don't never we don't get too personal because we
Speaker:also want to keep it professional We are representing the company, right?
Speaker:Right, but we asked how it was working for that particular project and he's
Speaker:able like he was happy to share I think more so they're more happy to
Speaker:That they have someone talk to them as a person as opposed to a celebrity.
Speaker:Or as a product.
Speaker:Or as a product.
Speaker:People assume they just like, as soon as they get off stage or they're done
Speaker:acting, they go back into the cage.
Speaker:Or a product to be sold.
Speaker:So if you're a product, sorry, if you're a post supervisor, how do
Speaker:you, what exactly does that mean?
Speaker:Because it's not the For those of us, a lot of people who listen to the
Speaker:show are in the industry, but some people aren't listening to the show.
Speaker:How would you explain what a post supervisor does?
Speaker:Yeah, so my role really consists of overseeing the account service team.
Speaker:This is the team that is face to face with clients if they need to pull materials and
Speaker:clients as in post production companies.
Speaker:So we work closely with NBC, Disney, CBS, Paramount.
Speaker:So they are working with these management teams to pull material off the shelves.
Speaker:For whatever case they may need it.
Speaker:And on top of that, I work closely with operations, so we need to ship
Speaker:materials out to If it's local, it's easier, but if we need to ship things
Speaker:out international, international, then we need to work with them to ensure
Speaker:that everything is packaged correctly.
Speaker:But the most fun for me is working with the studios team where we get the assets
Speaker:and then we condense those materials into digital files and we upload it
Speaker:to whatever networks they needed to.
Speaker:Is that a complicated process?
Speaker:Can you talk about that process?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Again, I don't know.
Speaker:It's Details about it, software is not necessarily the biggest
Speaker:thing that I look into.
Speaker:She's not a software engineer.
Speaker:No, but we have a lot of, I guess you could say, profiles
Speaker:set up ready for us to use.
Speaker:Really what we need to do is make sure that the asset is in good condition.
Speaker:We'll add it to the machine.
Speaker:Load it onto the machine.
Speaker:And then we just play with the settings to compress those files.
Speaker:And it does it for us.
Speaker:And about how long does that usually take?
Speaker:Real time.
Speaker:So if The tape is an hour and ten minutes.
Speaker:It's going to take an hour and ten minutes to compress into a digital file.
Speaker:What's one of the biggest ones you guys have done anything like five, six?
Speaker:I guess you, documentary movies can last a long time, or really, especially
Speaker:if it's a series or something.
Speaker:Documentaries don't really have a time limit on them.
Speaker:No, mostly about, like, documentaries, what's cool about it
Speaker:is we get to compress, uh, files.
Speaker:From different formats, so we're working with digi betas.
Speaker:We're working with HD cams.
Speaker:Those are the most recent tapes, but we also have things that are on film
Speaker:and those are a little bit trickier to work with because we have to ensure
Speaker:that it's rolled up correctly or If it's, there's a lot of technicalities
Speaker:to it, but we just have to make sure that it's in good condition before.
Speaker:I assume you probably don't prefer film deliveries.
Speaker:No, they're heavier to work with.
Speaker:Just, there's a lot more components to it.
Speaker:Who do you mostly deal with as far as a post production supervisor?
Speaker:As in Day to day, do you work with the studios more?
Speaker:Do you work with independent people more?
Speaker:In that aspect, what would you say?
Speaker:Studios, for sure.
Speaker:Do you have a preferred studio that you like to work with?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Do you want to tell us?
Speaker:Sure.
Speaker:It's actually Disney.
Speaker:You like working with Disney the best.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:What about Disney do you like?
Speaker:Is it the Flex Studio?
Speaker:Is it that you get to walk around and flex?
Speaker:It's not a flex?
Speaker:It's not a flex.
Speaker:It is, it gets a flex.
Speaker:It's a plus side.
Speaker:But what makes them your favorite?
Speaker:Morso is really the team that they have over there, their management
Speaker:team, they're just really friendly.
Speaker:For me, it's about connecting with people really, and working with that
Speaker:particular person, the management for that department, has been great.
Speaker:And just, I've been working with that company for some time now, so we've
Speaker:built So that has built over time.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:And do you have these types of connections with all of the studios?
Speaker:Or do you feel like it's just Disney that you have this connection with?
Speaker:Because, to be fair, I guess everyone has their favorite Usually people's
Speaker:favorite, quote unquote favorite studios to work with, really just comes
Speaker:down to how that Personnel at that company and you click where sometimes
Speaker:you click sometimes you don't because there are definitely times that we work
Speaker:with other studios Where's oh, okay.
Speaker:We're not best friends But working with them compared to some other
Speaker:people that especially every time we go to the LA comic con specifically
Speaker:Those are people we meet up with all the time and we have a really great
Speaker:time So is it like that second one was okay We can we click or is it more?
Speaker:Oh, which is that disney's the longest one you've been running with?
Speaker:I think it's a mix of both So Disney's top client for me, but
Speaker:I also do working with Paramount.
Speaker:The team, similar values that they have.
Speaker:Disney carries and with them it's been it gets difficult with
Speaker:paramount because they do have those 70 millimeter film reels Yeah.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Yes, so it gets trickier with some of the projects that we do for them
Speaker:But just in general working with them has been a breeze now when you talk
Speaker:about working with Disney and working with Paramount being your particular
Speaker:favorites is it You said team.
Speaker:Is it like one to one particular person that you like working with?
Speaker:Or is it just the team as a whole?
Speaker:It's the team.
Speaker:So it's one person, but they have their team.
Speaker:And so we work with the entire team.
Speaker:So your point of contact is the person you like the most and then you like
Speaker:working with that team in general.
Speaker:Is that what you're saying?
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Who do you not like working with the most?
Speaker:I don't think, I don't think you should say that.
Speaker:No, I'm not gonna.
Speaker:Okay, I had to ask.
Speaker:I figured maybe you might tell us.
Speaker:But is there, what are the personalities like between the studios?
Speaker:Could you say, oh, Disney acts like McDonald's?
Speaker:From a post perspective, because we're more on the other side of it.
Speaker:But from more of a post perspective, are there personalities distinct
Speaker:to each company that you work with?
Speaker:I don't think so.
Speaker:I will say, even though it's post production, everything is still
Speaker:fast paced because they need it to air wherever they need it to air.
Speaker:I think it's a balance of having to work with how they need to work around it,
Speaker:and then aside, building relationships.
Speaker:Hey, did you get to go to the HPA?
Speaker:The Hollywood Post Awards?
Speaker:No, I didn't get a chance to go.
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:Have you ever been before, or did you just go this year?
Speaker:No, I haven't been before.
Speaker:Oh, okay.
Speaker:Something that you always hear when you're at HPA, to be fair, It's not the biggest
Speaker:out of all the award shows, there's what, an award show every day in this town.
Speaker:It's always somebody's award, soon they're gonna have Jupiter awards here
Speaker:or something, it's always something.
Speaker:Anyway, at the HPA they talk a lot about ways to keep things organized.
Speaker:And I specifically know more editors than I do coordinators
Speaker:and supervisors like yourself.
Speaker:They always have their organization list.
Speaker:As a supervisor, what do you do to keep organized?
Speaker:I make a list.
Speaker:Oh, it's still a list?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Is it like the straight up Google sheet?
Speaker:Uh, yes.
Speaker:Yeah, that's the best way to go about it.
Speaker:And that's the only way you're able to stay organized?
Speaker:That's how I like to stay organized.
Speaker:It works for me.
Speaker:I'm more of a pen and paper type of gal.
Speaker:Sometimes you lose that piece of paper.
Speaker:So then Google Sheets was the next best thing.
Speaker:When we talk about post production coordinator or post production supervisor.
Speaker:What is your day specifically consist of?
Speaker:Like when you go to the office, what's one of the first things you get down
Speaker:the door and be like, all right, you're being supervised right now.
Speaker:No, no, no, I would not do that.
Speaker:Most of my roles really consist.
Speaker:of ensuring that the teams have what they need.
Speaker:And if they don't, then I'm the liaison to get the materials that they do need.
Speaker:But I will say, I think I venture more into the digital aspect of it.
Speaker:I just specifically make myself be there a lot more.
Speaker:We talked a little bit.
Speaker:This is before the show started.
Speaker:We talked a little bit about, uh, software and you said that your company
Speaker:and possibly some other companies might be going down some software changes
Speaker:nowadays because AI does a lot and the technology is moving really fast.
Speaker:Have you had to do a lot of big software overhauls?
Speaker:Is that like a thing that regularly happens?
Speaker:No, it doesn't happen regularly.
Speaker:I think it's just the company is ready to make a switch into cloud storage per se.
Speaker:And so they just really want to keep up with the times to ensure
Speaker:that they don't fall behind.
Speaker:Cloud storage instead of their own servers.
Speaker:So instead of physical storage, it'll be like once we digitize
Speaker:the assets, like someone needs to store it somewhere, right?
Speaker:We can't stay on a hard drive for the longest time.
Speaker:So they're implementing like a cloud storage service.
Speaker:Are you guys too worried about any sort of hacking?
Speaker:Cloud storage just get hacked a lot.
Speaker:That's one of the biggest thing for a company, security.
Speaker:That's like the number one priority.
Speaker:So that's, I know they have like their own IT team that works through that.
Speaker:Aside from like technicality, technicalities of it, I have You
Speaker:wouldn't want to have another like Sony where you just get completely hacked.
Speaker:Yeah, definitely not.
Speaker:Sony is another of our clients.
Speaker:So I know security as it is important for them.
Speaker:It is for us because they are in our, I know it's important to
Speaker:them now because they got, they leaked their Superman, right?
Speaker:Movie.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Just the whole system just.
Speaker:completely went down.
Speaker:They had, I remember a while back, they had a team of hackers
Speaker:that basically took over Sony.
Speaker:You couldn't go on the PlayStation store.
Speaker:I don't know how they did it, but hackers like By hacking, probably.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:But they hacked into the source file, and basically had Sony by the cojones.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So there's a lot of even for I work for that company, there's
Speaker:a lot of layers of security.
Speaker:So, you need to enter this passcode, and then they send you a code,
Speaker:and you enter that, and Yeah.
Speaker:I know security's big on both sides, for the people who work there, and
Speaker:the people our clients, per se.
Speaker:And then, as far as Being a supervisor ghost.
Speaker:Have you ever had to fire people?
Speaker:I knew you were going to ask me this question.
Speaker:I, yes, it's not necessarily myself because That's what HR is for.
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:Because why be the bad guy when you don't have to be, right?
Speaker:Yes, but, so it is you.
Speaker:Here's the thing.
Speaker:We hire people to do certain things, right?
Speaker:And if we talk to them and we try to work with them, and if that doesn't
Speaker:work, then we're going to need to find someone that's willing to do the work.
Speaker:I feel like there's a lot of turnover in, I don't know.
Speaker:No, there's not.
Speaker:No, most people that are there, it's because they want to be there.
Speaker:And that's something that they pursued from time to time.
Speaker:You get those one.
Speaker:One offs.
Speaker:Have you ever recommended anybody to be fired?
Speaker:Isn't that the same thing?
Speaker:It's the same thing.
Speaker:With post production, so most of those people, they, production is, post is,
Speaker:you have to like doing it to be there.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, cause it's one of the most tedious aspects of making any creative endeavor.
Speaker:Is there anything that you as a supervisor do to help your employees
Speaker:go for Long periods of time or possibly keep the grind going.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:So I think it's just finding areas of opportunity where they could grow,
Speaker:just knowing what their background is, what they went to school for,
Speaker:and then how we can implement those skills into the company.
Speaker:So I have seen a lot of people move up in different positions.
Speaker:Cool.
Speaker:You know what?
Speaker:It's been so great talking to you.
Speaker:Thank you for coming on to the show.
Speaker:Thank you.
Speaker:Is there any way where people can follow you or would you have anything
Speaker:to shout out, anything coming out next?
Speaker:Anything to plug, say hi to Val Kilmer.
Speaker:Val Kilmer is great.
Speaker:But people could follow me on LinkedIn, Darlene Barrios.
Speaker:Darlene Barrios, awesome.
Speaker:Guys, this has been Film Center.
Speaker:I'm Derek Johnson II.
Speaker:I'm Nicholas Killian.
Speaker:And this, we're here with?
Speaker:Darlene Barrios.
Speaker:And we'll see you next time.
Speaker:See ya.
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